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About Comparable versions...

Isn't Abrams, Leopard, Ariete better than T 80 and more comparable to T 90? Al Khalid, AMX and Chinese T 96 are actually comparable. SReader21 (talk) 00:25, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And of course Challenger 2 also is more comparable to T 90, Challenger 1 is fine. SReader21 (talk) 00:26, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The T-80 is more than comparable to the M1 abrams and Leopard 2, they were less than 5 years apart, and the T-80B was more than capable of providing a huge threat to them, the T-80B possessed a superior range, accuracy and horsepower to ton ratio compared to early model abrams tanks (M1, M1IP)

Also the Al khalid is just a modernized chieftain how is it comparable to the T-80? And isn't the Al Khalid niche to the point of making a a shit comparison? It's an export variant that ended up only being used by one country in an amount of less than 300. And the AMX-30? Don't make me laugh, that thing is a mere 5 years older than the T-62 and M60 how is it a comparison with a 3rd gen MBT

And the T-90? It came out in the 90s it was 10 years older than the earlies T-80s and abramses D1d2d3d29 (talk) 16:35, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

T80U didn't have thermal imaging system.

There's an error stating that T80U has thermal imaging system when it actually doesn't. 37.173.120.9 (talk) 08:12, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Second photo on the page.

In answer to the questioning of the provenance of the second photo, this appears in Zaloga's "T-80 Standard Tank" and is credited thus:

"Mystery tank. This is the first widely-distributed photo of a new tank that NATO called SMT1983/1 (Soviet Medium Tank). This T-80B of the 40th Guards Tank Regiment, 11th Guards Tank Division, was taken by a member of the French Military Liaison Mission in Germany in December 1984 near the Konigsbruck PMA (Permanent Restricted Area) (US DoD)." LoatesyJnr (talk) 13:56, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The T-80 was used by the Russian armed forces during the Tajikistan civil war

I recently found this documentary on the war and in some footage what appears to be a T-80 is visible, for example at 2:29:02, but at some other points in the video too: Период распада. Война в Таджикистане. - YouTube

So participation in it should be added to the list of conflicts it took part in and the operational history section D1d2d3d29 (talk) 16:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would have added it myself but i found no sources mentioning the T-80 being used specifically, every article on the battle for Turg height i found just mentioned "tanks" without specifying the type, so the only source is archival footage and i don't know how that's supposed to be cited D1d2d3d29 (talk) 16:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

T-80 in Egyptian service

(Reference: Operators section). Egypt does not operate the T-80 in any variant. IISS The Military Balance 2024 & 2023 does not report any, SIPRI Arms Transfer Database reports none either, and to my knowledge there are no photos or videos of T-80's in service with the Egyptian Army or any in Egyptian colour schemes or markings. Likely the Egyptians trialed the T-80 back in the 90's and instead chose the M1A1 Abrams. The T-80's were likely returned to seller and have not been seen in Egypt since. The only sources for this claim are dubious websites like ArmyRecognition, and they in turn have no sources. It is not "Disputed" whether Egypt uses the T-80. They simply don't, and it is not needed to list them in this article. I would like to remove their mention from the Operator section. Anyone disagree? Anyone have any substantive sources? TheSerendipitist (talk) 03:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Likewise, China does not operate the T-80. It is possible they imported some for testing and technology transfer, but even that is unsubstantiated. What we can say right now is that China does not operate the T-80. IISS TMB 2024 does not report it (neither do any previous editions I have read), SIPRI and UNODA Arms Transfer Database's do not record any mention of them receiving T-80's, and I am likewise unaware of any photographic evidence that they use them. If as this article suggests China imported some for testing and evaluation then they should be shifted into that category and not listed as "Disputed". TheSerendipitist (talk) 05:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]